The fact that dwarves in general were leaner than human beings has no relevance towards aragorn and thorin. The events of the hobbit take place between 2941 to 2942 t. Legolas and tauriel wave 1, pack of 2 the bridge direct hobbit bolg and gandalf battle damaged 3. It is absolutely correct to say that thror was killed by by an orc named azog. The pale orc sat astride a white warg, like the great goblin said. Azog was an orc of the third age who commanded the tribes of moria from ta 2790 until his death in ta 2799. Were there orcs in the hobbit novel i saw the movie and i know for a fact that the white orc was not mentioned at all. Five things changedexpanded from the book for the hobbit films. Pretty little orc lord chapter 5 sijglind the hobbit. Azog is described in the appendices as a great orc with a huge. Artstation the hobbit battle of five armies hero orcs. He was never called the defiler, and was never described as being any different from another orc, except for having a huge head. Its not my place to speak for peter jackson as i have no direct knowledge behind his decisions but it makes sense to me that he would do this.
Azog the defilerquotes the hobbit film trilogy wikia. My friends said there was an orc leader its just that he was not white. The necromancer told him their time would soon come and azog would lead his armies forth. Aragorn is a direct descendant of numenoreans and is obviously not an ordinary human as. May 01, 20 he was never called the defiler, and was never described as being any different from another orc, except for having a huge head. This is really two questions, but ill try to answer them both. Press question mark to learn the rest of the keyboard shortcuts. Azog is simply not in the book titled, the hobbit 1. How does bilbo baggins become involved in the quest to enter lonely mountain. At the death of the king and the disappearance of his son the orcs had overpowered the dwarves and the dwarves were fleeing for their lives. Aug 25, 2015 im not sure yet how i feel about the pale orc, a heavy who seems destined to play the one armed man to bilbos dr. The pale orc and his pack the hobbit an unexpected journey. Azog the defilerquotes the hobbit film trilogy wikia fandom.
The movie added items that were not in the book including smaugs attack on the dwarves home, thorins showdown with the pale orc and radagasts discovery of the rising of the dead. Lurtz lotr vs the pale orc azog the defiler the hobbit. Thorin believes azog to have died from his wounds, but, unlike in the book, he actually survived the battle and serves as thorins nemesis. The five most irritating ways peter jacksons the hobbit. A big ass axe as he stomps up the gangplank to slaughter all who stand in his way. In the shire, young bilbo is tricked by the gandalf into having a party for thorin and his company of dwarves. In tolkien books, orc and goblins are interchangeable due to the authors decision that goblins and their lore are romance based in literature and the creatures in books are not so. It can also change sides as part of negotiations during season unending the pale is sparsely populated, with safe places for travelers few and far between. Led by a huge, pale orc called azog manu bennett, the orc armies repel the dwarves. Azog, is his name, and he is either known as the defiler, or the pale orc. Questions about the hobbit free book companions and. This quote, delivered by gandalf the grey in peter jacksons interpretation of j. Therefore in doriath let him reign and be glad that he has the sons of finwe for his neighbours not the orcs of morgoth that we found. They were once found on the main universes draenor, where chogall recruited them into the horde to form the old godworshipping twilights hammer clan.
Tolkien and considered to be part of the middleearth canon, which were given an individual name or title by the author. Azog went to the fortress, where an army of orcs was being assembled and spoke to his master. Dec 20, 2012 were there orcs in the hobbit novel i saw the movie and i know for a fact that the white orc was not mentioned at all. Indeed doriath alone would be his realm this day but for the coming of the noldor. The orc rider was trapped under the warg, and as he tried to get free, thorin walked up to the fallen orc and raised his blade to cut the mishapen being by the throat. In the book version bilbo is not separated from the group until after gandalf kills the great goblin and the party is fleeing from under the mountain. Dain had glimpsed durins bane deep within and warned the dwarves to not. Yeah, sometimes you have to change stuff from book to film. Was azog as strong and powerful in the hobbit book as he is in the movies. Dec 14, 2019 thorin believes azog to have died from his wounds, but, unlike in the book, he actually survived the battle and serves as thorins nemesis. And what are the things he had done to earn his feared name.
Was azog, the white orc leader, in the hobbit book. Part of thorins richard arbitage backstory is a fight with a really nasty orc who killed his grandfather. The decision azog x reader 1 lovely title art made for me by. We could assume the bears are related to his species but we dont really know. Azog was a powerful orc chieftain who claimed rulership over the abandoned dwarvish mines of moria during the.
Bolg and azog were refreshed, with armour, including a brief exploration of helmet designs for azog, though ultimately he would not. A community dedicated to everything about dark souls 3. Why does thorin especially want to fight the pale orc. The five most irritating ways peter jacksons the hobbit deviated. Thorin believes azog to have died from his wounds, but, unlike in the book. Not wishing any of the orcs nearby to see the look of pain that had come over his face at the inevitable death of his only friend, the pale orc buried his face in the fur of the whimpering creature and laced his fingers through her matted fur with a growl.
Bolg was an orc leader of the misty mountains in the late third age, and the son of azog. Azog ordered his wargs to kill them all except thorin and they eventually forced the company into one tree, hanging precariously over the cliff. In this book we have a story arc conclusion, but threads to a future arc. While it is strictly canon that an orc named azog fought. He was still as ugly and cruellooking as i remember, covered in long ugly scars which seemed to make his blue eyes glow even more fiercely against his pale skin. As a devoted tolkien fan and reader i have no personal objections to the change. In all actuality there really is nothing dramatic going on at all during this time in the book. Questions about the hobbit the unexpected journey, movie 1, 2012. Bilbo fights him with his tiny sword until the eagles swoop in and save them all. Dropped by biting book burning book cursed book energetic book energuardian of tales guardian of tales icecold book knowledge elemental trade details buy from players only. The dwarves attempt to reconquer moria, a dwarven kingdom in the misty mountains thats been overrun by evil creatures called orcs. Jan 11, 20 diane asks, referring to the film the hobbit. While the orcs tend to appear as an anonymous mass in his works, a few individuals among them were mentioned by name or other personal identifying characteristics. Peter jackson is not only creating storylines of his.
Pale orcs, also called the pale, are deformed, sickly orcs afflicted with unnaturally pale skin and glowing eyes as a result of void corruption. Tolkiens classic childrens book, the hobbit, acts as a warning to its viewers. The pale orc asked about thorin, reminding his master that hed been promised the dwarves head. He belonged to those who only found pleasure when they were killing and raiding and. The bridge direct hobbit bolg and gandalf battle damaged 3. If book fans dont seem to remember azog the pale orc from the hobbit, theres a good reason for that. Twilight canticle wowpedia your wiki guide to the world. The movie continues to build upon the character of the pale orc. Im not sure yet how i feel about the pale orc, a heavy who seems destined to play the one armed man to bilbos dr. The pale orc is also shown as a servant of the necromancer instead of an independent chieftain. Instead gandalf simply leads the group to the valley of rivendell and into the last homely house.
Dec 17, 2012 peter jacksons violent betrayal of tolkien. The pale orc azog would return for the battle of the five armies, bringing with him new orc berserkers and his son bolg. The pale orc is also shown as a servant of the necromancer instead of an independent chieftain his conquest of moria is portrayed as part of the dark lords scheme to claim the north. Why dont i remember reading about azog losing his arm. Questions about the hobbit wise owl factory free book. The halfling despised the orc, not only because he was the pale orcs son and to bilbo that was reason enough to hate anyone, but because bolg was, just like his father, one of the nastier kind of orc.
It occurs in one or two places but is usually translated goblin or hobgoblin for the larger kinds. Azog stabs lurtz with his sword and lurtz pulls the sword into his stomach for. Thorins cousin dain killed the orc at the battle of azanulbizar in the year 2799 t. In the book the hobbit, a company of dwarves led by thorin oakenshield. He went missing, taken prisoner or killed, we did not know. Sadly, none of those books are about orc pirates, but if you bought this book, one of them could be.
As the ogre mage attuned himself to the old gods, he branded the prophecies of the twilights hammer onto the skin of his pale orc followers before cutting off their flesh to form the pages of the book. If youve read the hobbit, then you might be wondering who in the world this character is, and where in the world he came from. Richard kimbel, glomming on to him and his dwarf buds like a bad suit all the way to the goddam lonely mountain admittedly its been quite a while since i read the book, but im fairly sure hes new. An enraged thorin then pursues the orc, but azog takes him by surprise and, screaming furiously, duels thorin with his amputated bladearm and mace against thorins sword. The following is a list of the orcs of middleearth, created by fantasy author j. Peter jacksons violent betrayal of tolkien the atlantic. The scars and pale skin make a very distinctive character, and as far as villainous titles go, the defiler is as good as it gets. They all end up on one tree and as the fire rages the pale orc arrives and wants to kill thorin. In the hobbit, bolg had succeeded azog after the latters death in the battle of azanulbizar the last battle of the war of the dwarves and orcs in ta 2799 by dain ii ironfoot, and had resettled in the old refuge of mount gundabad after the kingdom of angmar was abandoned.
Azog was an orcchieftain of moria, who started the war of the dwarves. Mar 19, 20 bolg, in the movies is killed by legolas. The pale is a hold in northern skyrim, with its capital in dawnstar. The movie added items that were not in the book including. The next difference is in the meeting between the great goblin and the prisoners. Pale orc wowpedia your wiki guide to the world of warcraft. He was responsible for the death of king thror and for king thrains madness. Its stated by gandalf that shape shifters are rare, and it is also stated that beorn meets with bears on the reg. To show my dominance with azog x reader when your village get pillaged and you are taken by the pale orc, a new future lays before you. Pale orc azog beheaded his grandfather thror, former king of the dwarves. However, he did not realize he had turned his back to the other pack, and as he readied himself to finish off the wounded orc, a. Bolg arrived one day after azog had left the caves.
Thingol does but grant us lands where his power does not run. The pale warg chapter 1, a hobbit fanfic fanfiction. Of course, smaug is a personal adversary for the heir of thror but, lets face it, thorin is not going to kill smaug. Its about a badass orc on a giant pirate ship about to raid the closest human village. Orc is the hobbits form of the name given at that time to these creatures, and it is not connected at all to our orc, ork, applied to seaanimals of dolphinkind. Actually, there is not even a mention of the pale orc. Azog biography relationship quotes bts images moria had been taken by legions of orcs, led by the most vile of all their race, azog the defiler. What is not accurate is to portray azog as still being alive, let alone. Its stated by gandalf that shape shifters are rare, and.
He actually died almost 150 years before the book begins. It is dramatically essential to show the audience just what is at stake, especially since the audience will not have another opportunity to see the storys. Thorin fights with azog and cuts off his left forearm, and the pale orc is dragged off by a few fellow orcs. Did these inclusions make the movie better or too long. On the other hand theres some fairly runofthemill metafictional business about the book not being a novel at all but a nonfiction memoir of the authors experience as a tax examiner in the. An unexpected journey book vs movie add a difference. But when a paleorc comes into your tavern, you question yourself if youve really seen it all. It is initially affiliated with the stormcloaks, but can be captured by the imperial legion after completing a false front and the battle for fort dunstad. It is dramatically essential to show the audience just what is at stake, especially since the audience will not have another opportunity to see the storys main adversary, smaug, until the second film. Pale by chris wooding is a novella about jed, a bully, who antagonizes the pales people who have taken the lazarus serum after dying and have been resurrected into someone who vaguely looks like the person they were before but now have pale skin, eyes, and hair. Lurtz is a urukhai so hes generally stronger than most orcs and goblins but the pale orc may be an exception.
Thorin came out to fight azog, but he was unable to match the pale orc, who struck him repeatedly, sending him to the ground. This item the bridge direct hobbit fimbul orc on warg 3. During a climactic fight between the dwarf and the pale orc, thorin recovers quickly and gets the upper hand by throwing the orc down a hill. Maybe the white skin of azog in the movie is some nod to disfigured orc gothmog from return of the king, symbolically representing stronger breed of orcs who becomes leaders, just a random thought. Dec 17, 2014 if book fans dont seem to remember azog the pale orc from the hobbit, theres a good reason for that.
While it is strictly canon that an orc named azog fought the dwarves at khazaddum and that he killed thorins grandpa, this pale mothercker does not feature in the hobbit. Richard kimbel, glomming on to him and his dwarf buds like a bad suit all the way to the goddam lonely mountain admittedly its been quite a while since i. We have more action, more magic, more evil bastards getting their just desserts, more sea monsters, more new ships and crewmembers getting promoted to captain, and more treasure. Therefore in doriath let him reign and be glad that he has the sons of finwe for his neighbours not the orcs of morgoth that we. I mean its pretty vague whether or not he is the last of his kind in the book. Any guidance as to where i could read about the orcs would be much appreciated. As a tavern owner, you thought youve been through it all. However, he did not realize he had turned his back to the other pack, and as he readied himself to finish off the wounded orc, a pain struck his shoulder. The pale orc has haunted the memories and stories of the dwarves for many long years.